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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:25 am 
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Guys, I have read that given the choice it is preferable to run the highest impedance selection available for the amp using the correct matching cab/speaker (ie, 16 Ohm cab and selection position for the Tramp) thereby using the full windings of the transformer. When running a lower impedance selection the tapped selection has the same effect as running a smaller, less massive transformer. I haven't tried this but has anyone tried this on their Tramp and is there is any noticeable difference in the resulting tone/sound. It sound theoretically plausible but in practice how does this shape up?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:34 am 
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Never heard the difference personally, but also didn't really audition it. Sounds good in theory.
But if that was the case, wouldn't more speakers would have been made 16 ohms?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:57 pm 
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Yeah I thought the same and I just figured there aren't more 16 Ohm speakers because it seems so many amps just have an 8 Ohm transformer (not tap selectable) so with an 8 Ohm speaker they already use the full windings available in that OT.

So following on from that I wondered in the case of the Tramp which can be selected to run a 16 Ohm load, are we potentially "wasting" half the transformer windings/mass by running in the 8 Ohm selection with an 8 Ohm speaker and therefore in comparison (to the 16 Ohm selection and matching speaker) running a smaller OT with less mass, because it is only utilising half the windings potential of the transformer that is already installed. Compared to selecting 16 Ohm and attaching a 16 Ohm speaker the other half of the OT windings/mass is also brought into play making it akin to putting a more massive/bigger OT with double the windings in the amp?

I have no idea I'm just throwing it out for discussion and feedback, it would be interesting to try an 8 ohm versus 16 ohm version of the same model speaker with the switch in the relevant position and evaluate. Unfortunately I don't currently have access to any 16 Ohm speakers of the same type I have in my cab, but the more I think on it the more it makes sense.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:55 am 
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Impedance ratio is not proportional to number of turns, it is a square of number of turns. To double impedance you only need to increase the number of turns by a square root of 2, meaning two sections of a 4R & 8R transformer are not identical . In all case all of the core is used, in some cases, less , but not half, of the windings are used.
There may be a theoretical tonal affect using a few more windings, but I somehow doubt it would be audible.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:33 am 
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Hi, I put my Tramp in a 2x10 combo cab, I tried wiring both series and parallel for 4R and 16R loads (8R speakers) and did not notice any difference in tone.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:40 am 
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Interesting results. Thanks for sharing that. I wouldn't have expected much of anything.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:23 pm 
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Thanks guys, Dave thanks for sharing that, it's exactly what I was going to try, good to know.

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