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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:48 am 
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For those who have built in one of these, do you have a good schematic/layout for one? I'm looking for one that doesn't pop, is relaiable, uses easy to get parts and works of the 6.3V heater voltage.

Maybe even an A-B-Y switcher?

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I do these all the time. I'll have to come up with a good schematic. I'll also see what relay I ordered from Mouser last time, but I've done this with a few different relays. I generally use the 6.3 fillament voltage tap, unless there's another 5 or 6.3V tap not being used.

The trick to the pop is how you switch and where you put the switching.

What amp are you trying to add switching to?

I'll see if I can get something together for you tonight.

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I got a request for it on an sIII (18W). I'd appreciate your help. I could always use a BBQ one I guess.

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Here's rgtr's input. I'll post the schematic soon.

rjgtr wrote:
Here's the switching schematic. It only shows the power and relay coil sections. I also listed the Mouser part number of the relays. The schematic shows a three mode switching scheme. In my case it is Clean channel to Gain channel, then Gain mode one to gain mode two. For a simple two channel switching scheme leave out one of the relays.

Normally I use a combination of basic switching and grounding techniques. I'm usually doing switching with an amp that uses one input to the PI. So in the case of the sIII you could just use a SPDT relay, instead of the DPDT and just use grounding techniques. But I'd go ahead and get the DPDT anyway, just in case you need a little more control.

I generally ground the gain channel after the first or second gain stage. It all depends on the topology; in an amp that shares the first gain stage, I do the gain channel after the second gain stage. In the sIII, I'd just do it after the TMB's first stage. If that causes a pop then try moving it to the TMB master volume pot's input.

On the normal channel I'd ground from the volume control input.

The closer to the PI you get the less pop effect you're likely to get.

I'd also take one of the Normal channel inputs and wire it to feed both inputs, or add a switch. You could share the first gain stage but this would change the character of the amp.

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I was figuring to switch the inputs at V1. Will this incerease the 'pop potential' ?

I plan on retaining the current 4 inputs of the amp.

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Schematic from rgtr:

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D1 and D2 are backwards.


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I'll have to get rgtr to change it.

BTW, has anyone used JFETs for switching? they would work instead of relays and no pop at all? - Thoughts?

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I have thought about it. But I do my switching on both sides of the PI and have no noise so I thought why complicate it.


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