zaphod wrote:
Heh, they're listed as "Classic Lead" without the "80", so that really confused me. I really like the look of the high end roll off I see in the frequency response graph, whereas most of the other Celestions have a more extended response at the bright end. I reckon that would make the CL80s sound pretty smooth.
I wonder if they might make another good Fane alternative for a Hiwatt or Triwatt...
However their 85Hz resonant frequency is a little close to the 83Hz of a guitar's bottom E, which may have been what was causing D'Ari's problems with the low end response.
Yeah, I'd call them smooth - they have a really nice refined rock thing happening - they're not hi-fi like the Tubbys, but they REALLY sound good with some breakup. Might make a great Fane alternative - I put them in my Trinity 212 that's tolexed to match my Triwatt so they're going to see some action together! I'll report back once I get my AWESOME Triwatt from Stephen...
The CL80 is UNBELIEVABLE with Stephen's Deluxe! I've done testing with the Deluxe twice now using different speakers and the CL80 is hand's down the best speaker for that amp for my tastes...
It's possible that 85Hz resonant frequency was causing the problem, but I think it was a combination of things - first of all D'Ari plays an Epiphone Sheraton 335 copy with Gibson 57 Classic humbuckers... this is the EPITOMY of dark and fat!! It actually probably doesn't get much darker and fatter than that!!
I tried the Tramp/CL80 combo with my guitars, and it was definitely dark, but it wasn't as terrible as what D'Ari was experiencing - even with my PRS Cu24 in the neck which is a pretty dark/thick sound it was pretty good. So, I think the guitar was a big part of it. Secondly, the CL80 really sounded different in the Tramp cab than it did in my Fender 212 or this little 112 I have. So, obviously the CL80 performs differently depending on the cab it's in... Anyway, as I mentioned before, they sound downright bright in my Trinity 212, and when they were in the Fender cab I never felt they were dark...
zaphod wrote:
bgroup wrote:
Celestion Silver series V12 60... It sounded BADASS, and D'Ari LOVED it!!
I can't find that one on Celestion's web site either. Still, if it sounds BADASS, then that's what we want!
I think they've long been discontinued. They came out quite a while ago, maybe around Y2K... not sure how they sold... I think they were an affordable, made in China speaker (maybe everyone was willing to pay the big bucks for the originals!) and they sound damn good for a speaker that nobody's ever heard of!!
I have one more that needs to be reconed so if I fall in love with sound of D'Ari's Tramp enough, maybe I'll pop that one in my Tramp!! Man you should have seen the smile on D'Ari's face when he cranked up the Tramp with the new speaker (using his guitar) for the first time!! That grin was ear to ear...
Here's the official word on them:
The Silver Series of guitar loudspeakers combines legendary Celestion performance and tone with fantastic value for money. Modern, efficient manufacturing facilities and state-of-the-art design, ensure that each Silver Series loudspeaker provides incredible presence and unbeatable definition of tone. From the V10-40 10 in. speaker to the powerful V15-100 15 in. with 100W power handling and 99dB sensitivity, all deliver the highest levels of performance. The Silver Series is available with a choice of 8 or 16 Ohm impedance (except the V15-100 which is 8 Ohm only), offering extreme versatility and vintage voicing with modern power handling.
Silver Series Features:
5 guitar loudspeakers that combine modern engineering and design with traditional construction and manufacture, to produce the legendary Celestion tone
Attractive price makes them a more cost-effective upgrade than a new set of pickups
Exceptional response and power make the Silver Series ideal for use in a variety of cabs and combos
The V15-100 is particularly suited to valve combos and is traditionally used for blues, slide guitar and pedal steel
About Celestion
Think of your all time favorite guitar solo -- chances are it was played through Celestion loudspeakers. When a toughened G12 radio loudspeaker was combined with an early guitar amplifier back in the fifties, who could have imagined the sound would be so influential. But the soft, creamy overtones produced by an overloaded valve amp through a Celestion speaker had defined a whole new sound; one that powered the emerging guitar heroes of the period and, during the next 4 decades, became the undisputed Voice of Rock & Roll.
And so it continues today. Be it Manchester Brit-pop, LA shred-metal or Seattle grunge, it's more than likely coming at you through a Celestion, with most of the classic names in guitar amplification continuing to rely on the unique tonal characteristics of Celestion loudspeakers to produce their trademark sounds.
Technical Info
Power Handling: 60W
Sensitivity: (1W @ 1m): 96dB
Resonant Frequency: 70Hz
Frequency Response: 70Hz - 5kHz
Impedance: 8 ohms
Magnet Weight: 25 oz._________________
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