trinityamps.com

Trinity Amps Guitar Amp Forum
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:43 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:06 am 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
While it seems pretty natural to me, preparing co-ax cable can be a challenge. I hope this helps.

Plain Co-Ax cable

Image


Strip about 3/4" outside insulator off on end and 1/2" off other end


Image


Push metal braided sheath towards one end so it bulges out


Image

Use a large needle or small jewller's screwdriver to poke a hole
through the bulging sheath and 'fish' enough so you can get pliers to grip the inside conductor


Image


Use needle nose pliers to grip and pull the inside conductor through the hole you just made

Image

Twist the braid into one strand and strip 1/4" off the inside conductor.

Image


After you've prepared the oposite end, apply 1/2" of shrink tubing over the end of the cable.

Image

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Last edited by coco on Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:29 am 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:32 pm
Posts: 153
Location: Hubley, Nova Scotia
Good one, coco! I had some fun trying to separate that braid until you told me this method!

Thanks!

JP


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:03 pm 
Offline
Expert
Expert

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:46 am
Posts: 1078
Location: PA
Now why didn't you do this before.
I would sit there and take apart every strand for about an hour.
Damn :D :D :D


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:22 pm 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
sorry :oops:

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:30 am 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:05 pm
Posts: 432
Location: Massachusetts
Greetings all.
Is there a need for more of these sorts of wiring/building "Tips" on this forum? I can see that many of you are seasoned builders, but I can also see many questions being asked by others who are first time builders and could probably use a bit of advice to get started on the right foot. I don't want to step on any toes (especially with the boss), but I would be more than willing to offer tips and maybe photo examples like Stephen had here on various soldering and wire servicing procedures. I'm a 25 year veteran of the defense industry with DOD, NASA and J-STD 001 certifications. I'm titled as a Master Technician/Engineering Assistant with a specialty in wiring and cabling for NG and formally with UTC. Please let me know if this sort of information would be helpful to anyone.
Joe G

_________________
Some assembly required,
Brain sold separately...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: re: Tips
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:24 pm 
Offline
Friend
Friend

Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:59 pm
Posts: 30
Location: Bainbridge Island, WA
Hi Joe,

I'm about to embark on my first build (Plexi/V6). I would be grateful for any information/tips you could provide on soldering, tinning and prepping wires.

Thanks,
Mark

_________________
Mark


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:32 pm 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
joeyvelour wrote:
Greetings all.
Is there a need for more of these sorts of wiring/building "Tips" on this forum? I can see that many of you are seasoned builders, but I can also see many questions being asked by others who are first time builders and could probably use a bit of advice to get started on the right foot. I don't want to step on any toes (especially with the boss), but I would be more than willing to offer tips and maybe photo examples like Stephen had here on various soldering and wire servicing procedures. I'm a 25 year veteran of the defense industry with DOD, NASA and J-STD 001 certifications. I'm titled as a Master Technician/Engineering Assistant with a specialty in wiring and cabling for NG and formally with UTC. Please let me know if this sort of information would be helpful to anyone.
Joe G


Joe,

Sorry I missed your post!! :oops:

Great Offer!!! Absolutely, anything you want to do would be very much appreciated & we can help if you need some for posting/hosting your pictures..

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:44 am 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:05 pm
Posts: 432
Location: Massachusetts
Thank you for the great reception and I'm more than happy to help if I can!

Stephen/everyone... What do you think would be the most useful format for something like this? There is a lot of information, and it would be great if it were all in one, easily accessible place that didn't get lost in the archives of the forum over time. Should it broken down into separate tutorials that correspond with the typical build, such as "Tool Selection", "Solder Types/Selection and Why", "Basic Mechanical Assembly", "Standards for Specific Solder Terminals", "How Getting Killed While Building a Guitar Amp Can Ruin Your Whole Day!!!", etc.?? Pictures seem to tell the story best, if not video. I would definitely need suggestions for posting pictures and so forth. Of course, I could always ask my 14 year old daughter for that info!!!
Thank you all in advance for your input!

Joe G

_________________
Some assembly required,
Brain sold separately...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:31 am 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
We can make them "Stickies" so they're always up front or Add a new Resources forum.

Any thoughts?

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:07 am 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
Actually, I was inspired to create a resources forum. It is only visible to forum members and will need an active moderator or two, or 3.

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:09 am 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:32 pm
Posts: 153
Location: Hubley, Nova Scotia
I think a new "How To" Forum, might be the trick, with individual "How to's" for those challenging tasks as individual Topics.

JP


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:03 pm 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:05 pm
Posts: 432
Location: Massachusetts
As a future project... How about a "How To" DVD, either enclosed with or offered for your kits? I'm on the edge of starting a build. Should I film it??? I love making a major production with everything I do... Just ask my wife!

Joe G

_________________
Some assembly required,
Brain sold separately...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:19 pm 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
joeyvelour wrote:
As a future project... How about a "How To" DVD, either enclosed with or offered for your kits? I'm on the edge of starting a build. Should I film it??? I love making a major production with everything I do... Just ask my wife!

Joe G


Sounds very ambitious. It would have to be quite general in nature though because the design changes, there are variants and different amps , but a general good idea. Could stream it from the web site.

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:59 am 
Offline
Expert
Expert

Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:46 am
Posts: 1078
Location: PA
Hi all,

I think at this point a "How to" forum is the way to go.
Place it right at the beginning so all "newbies" (and me too!) will automatically see the info.

Joe:
Glad to have you onboard.

If I didn't say it before, glad to be back all.

Trinity amps are the worlds easiest to build and best sounding.

As usual, my 2 cents.
Later.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:39 pm 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced

Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:05 pm
Posts: 432
Location: Massachusetts
I think Stephen is right about the video idea as far as taping an entire amp building project. Perhaps just quickie videos of the common steps, such as stripping and tinning wires, lead forming, soldering to a turret terminal, that sort of thing to supplement some still pics and text. It would be just enough to give people the tools they need, but not push the limits of their attention span. I just sat through a 5 day certification for J-STD soldering, including 2 days of pathetic soldering videos from the 80's. We should make the terrorists sit through this stuff!

I've already started outlining some "Getting Started" information on proper tools, choosing the correct solder, that sort of stuff. Any suggestions on a format would be appreciated. I can submit perhaps Word™ docs to Stephen for editing an/or commentary, whatever works. I'm a decent musician, but not a big computer guy. Let me know.

Thank you again for the welcome reception. I hope my info will help out!
Joe G

_________________
Some assembly required,
Brain sold separately...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:32 pm 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
joeyvelour wrote:
I've already started outlining some "Getting Started" information on proper tools, choosing the correct solder, that sort of stuff. Any suggestions on a format would be appreciated. I can submit perhaps Word™ docs to Stephen for editing an/or commentary, whatever works. I'm a decent musician, but not a big computer guy. Let me know.

Thank you again for the welcome reception. I hope my info will help out!
Joe G


Word is fine, including pics. I can move into the forum as/if required. The format of the forum does not allow for great formatting but let's try! If necessary, we can create web pages for each subject but having it as part of the forum is a little more convenient. So, only advice I can offer is to keep it simple!

I like the idea of little "movie" snippets as you suggested.

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:38 pm 
Offline
Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:10 pm
Posts: 7519
Location: Canada
How is this procedure working for people?

_________________
Stephen
Web: www.trinityamps.com. Facebook: facebook.com/trinityamps. Twitter: @trinityamps


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:21 pm 
Offline
Friend
Friend

Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:41 am
Posts: 48
I haven't tried it yet, but then again, I just read it. Thanks for the tip!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:15 pm 
Offline
Experienced
Experienced
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:47 pm
Posts: 341
Location: Oceanside, CA
coco wrote:
Twist the braid into one strand and strip 1/4" off the inside conductor.

Image


After you've prepared the oposite end, apply 1/2" of shrink tubing over the end of the cable.

Image


My asumption was that the operation in all the original pics was to create a shield "wire" for the purpose of soldering it. This is what I assumed was in the first picture above. If that's the case, is the second picture supposed to be of the opposite side of the coax cable, showing how the braid is protected by the heat shrink? Or, is it the intent to show how you can REALLY move the heat shrink back if you follow all of the original operation pics and then snip off the braid before covering it with heat shrink?

I suppose it comes down to what you mean by "prepared" for the other end.

_________________
Go Buckeyes!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:05 pm 
Offline
Novice
Novice
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:37 pm
Posts: 126
Location: Oblivia (Longmont, CO, US)
The shield should only be connected to ground at one end of the cable.....typically at the jack or pot. The shrink tubing covers the exposed shield wires at the opposite end to prevent anything from contacting them & shorting to ground.

_________________
************
** b0b0 **
************

- This Space For Rent -


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group