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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:43 pm 
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When I built the Tweed it worked perfectly. After a few shows the amp started to cut-off at high volumes.
i.e. the speaker farts (technical term) It seems it's being over driven.

Changed all the tubes and speaker to narrow down the problem. No difference.

Any suggestions were to start trouble shooting?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:21 pm 
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Duke recently had a Tweed issue he thought was an OT but found it was a solder joint.. Valve two pin two was shorting out.
Might want to check the tube socket pin soldering.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:49 pm 
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Yes I think your suggestion worked.
I just desoldered the shielding from the pot in case the shield wire was shorting out at pin 2 of the 12ax7
I will get my son to test it out on some of his rock songs and verify that it is truly fixed.
I will get back to you tomorrow Stephen. Really appreciate working with me on this problem late in the evening.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:26 am 
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Hope it solves the problem, but you should redo the cable if it's confirmed.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:52 am 
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We tried the amp this morning. It still breaks up when we hit the guitar strings hard. When I was trying it I was playing a normal song.
It's starting to look like it might be the orange drop coupling capacitors possibly driving the tubes into saturation.
I'm going to also inject a signal and trace it with my oscilloscope .
Any other ideas Stephen ?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:36 am 
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When i put a signal generator onto the amp it has a clean sound. But when I increase the signal strength to about 4 volts rms that's when the amp breaks up and the speaker starts to fart.
I know the output voltage of magnetic pick-ups varies between 100 mV rms to over 1 V rms for some of the higher output types. That's probably why it sounded great when i tried it.
A hard strum on all 6 guitar strings can also produce a larger output voltage swing, typically peak voltages of +/- 5 volts for single coil pick-ups and +/- 10 volt peaks on dual coil pick-ups.
That's the problem when my son really plays the strings hard the amp craps out.
He used the same guitar on all his previous shows with great sound then the amp started to malfunction.
Could the pick-ups be bad?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:22 pm 
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I don't think the pickups would be bad. You are using an AY7 in V1? You might dial the other channel volume up to reduce the OD but it doesn't solve the problem. You can also put a 470K resistor to pin7 of the PI to soften the OD. Could be the rectifier can keep up as to the volume level and thrashing! Did you have a spare to try?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:31 pm 
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I suppose it could be power supply related too. Maybe a low filter cap?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:34 pm 
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Yes I tried a new rectifier tube. No change.
I will try to put a 470K resistor to pin7 of the PI
What is PI?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:37 pm 
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Never mind obviously it's the phase inverter.
I'll try that


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:38 pm 
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PI = Phase Inverter (12AX7 in this case).

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Is there any DC voltage on the grids of any of the tubes?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:36 pm 
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12ax7. Pin7 16 volts. Pin 2 0 volts
6v6. Pins 4. 307 volts. Pins 0 volts
12ay7 pin 2 0 volts. Pin 7 0 volts


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:39 pm 
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Typo error 6v6 pin5. 0 volts


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:59 pm 
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That looks fine. :hmmm:

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:08 pm 
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Rather than repeat, here is some good info on locking distortion, which may be the problem,although I dont know why it would show up now. It suggests a change in something (guitar, technique, etc.) If you have .022 coupling caps, try those on the power tubes, or increase the grid resistor onthe power tubes from 1.5 to 5 or more.
Lower the input (i.e. less amp volume or lower vol on guitar.)

http://www.aikenamps.com/BlockingDistortion.html

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:50 pm 
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I haven't inserted the 470 ohm resistor yet. Later on tonight.
Do think putting some capacitors in parallel with the rectifier filters to increase the damping will help?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:14 pm 
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Not really, if it is blocking problem. You have to trim it at the front end. But give it a try but don't go too far as the 5Y3 can only handle so much capacitance.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 7:18 pm 
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Ok I'll give you feedback when I install the 470 ohm resistor


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Added the 470 ohm resistor and it had no effect.


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