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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:20 am 
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Hello,
I built my sIII. I want to get more modern tones like, say Deaf Tones, Metallica, Creed, etc. out of this mean machine. How can I get them?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:36 am 
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I would like this mean machine to produce more contemporary tones, such as Deaf Tones, Metallica, Creed, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:47 pm 
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For heavier, more aggressive tones like those of Metallica or Deftones, you'll want a guitar with higher-output pickups. Humbuckers are your best bet here since they provide more power and a thicker tone compared to single coils planet clicker


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:54 pm 
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i don’t think the 18watt is the right amp to achieve those types of tones. That type of tone is achieved with 4 preamp gain stages + CF before the PI. With your sIII you have a single gain stage on the traditional channel and 2gain stages + CF on the TMB channel. There is a reason why Mike Soldano went with 4 gain stages in his SLO. Up until that point heavy tones were to be had by putting a pedal in front of a JCM 800. So what you had was a gain stage in front followed by warm bias then cold clipper then warm bias again. Soldano got rid of the pedal, added a gain stage and moved the cold clipper to the third stage. Other amp companies followed suite .. in fact directly ripped off his circuit. You will need that type of amp.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 12:29 am 
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Consider swapping out your pickups for high-output models. Humbuckers are a great choice for heavy tones, and brands like Seymour Duncan (for Metallica-style tones) or EMG (for Deftones-style aggression) are popular.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:46 am 
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i don’t think the 18watt is the right amp to achieve those types of tones. That type of tone is achieved with 4 preamp gain stages + CF before the PI. With your sIII you have a single gain stage on the traditional channel and 2gain stages + CF on the TMB channel. Play Escape Road now. There is a reason why Mike Soldano went with 4 gain stages in his SLO. Up until that point heavy tones were to be had by putting a pedal in front of a JCM 800. So what you had was a gain stage in front followed by warm bias then cold clipper then warm bias again. Soldano got rid of the pedal, added a gain stage and moved the cold clipper to the third stage. Other amp companies followed suite .. in fact directly ripped off his circuit. You will need that type of amp.

You're right that the 18-watt amp might not give you the high-gain saturation typical of bands like Deftones or Metallica. To achieve those modern, heavy tones, you'll likely need to consider amps with more gain stages, similar to what Soldano did with the SLO. One option could be to upgrade to a high-gain amp like a Mesa Boogie or a modern Marshall that has multiple gain stages built in. Alternatively, you could use a good overdrive or distortion pedal in front of your current amp to push it closer to the heavier sounds you're after.


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